Microsoft's Chromium-Powered Edge Browser Moves Closer To Release With New Beta Build (thurrott.com) 36
Microsoft today made a beta version of its Chromium Edge browser available to download for macOS and Windows platforms, as it looks to convince users to give its revamped version of desktop browser a try. The company said the new beta version is built for "everyday use." From a report: Those on the Dev and Canary channels will continue to be able to run those builds along with the new Beta channel builds. For those on the Canary builds, Microsoft is releasing a new Collections feature today. Microsoft is announcing a couple of other big milestones today: the company says it has had more than 1 million downloads on the preview builds of Edge to date, and it's received more than 140,000 individual pieces of feedback from users so far.
Everyday (Score:1)
Nice work, M$! (Score:1)
They've made downloading Chrome a much more pleasant experience!
History is against them.... (Score:4, Informative)
Internet Explorer sucked
Edge sucks
no real reason to expect otherwise from MS's new offering
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Wonder what the last generations of MS browsers suggested use was?
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Downloading Chrome.
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Wonder what the last generations of MS browsers suggested use was?
That would be IE6-only web apps. Now get off my lawn!
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To be fair most browsers suck.
IE Won the browser War in the 1990's partially due to anti-competitive actions, and due to the fact that it didn't suck as much as Netscape did. By the time IE 4 and 5 came out. It was just as capable as its competition, and no longer a tool used to download Netscape. Netscape during this time, went into a direction that people didn't really want. Netscape goal was to become an Operating System to compete against Windows, so Netscape Communicator got really big and bloated, B
Re: History is against them.... (Score:2)
No one will even notice.
At this point there are now two entire generations who have never even heard of microsoft.
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Internet Explorer sucked
Edge sucks
no real reason to expect otherwise from MS's new offering
It doesn't necessarily suck. It basically drives like Chrome. There is one extra click you have to do in order to use Chrome extensions and themes from the Chrome store. In some ways, it is more user friendly that Chrome.
The only knock or two I have against it is a very small number of sites do not render properly. That and having to approve EVERY time to use Flash (which neither a lot of public servers and definitely not home-brewed intranet apps are not going to get rid of anytime soon).
I realize all
"Internet Explorer Sucked" (Score:2)
Internet Explorer sucked
Edge sucks
no real reason to expect otherwise from MS's new offering
First, IE didn't always suck. It was, at times, the best browser available, especially when Netscape 4X started showing its age. It's not just that it was shipped with every version of Windows; businesses were quite happy to standardize on what they considered the better browser, especially as the very notion of paying for a browser became ridiculous. It was about the IE 5X era that Internet Explorer really started to rule the Internet, for just those reasons. This was even more true on the Mac, as pretty m
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Internet Explorer sucked
Edge sucks
no real reason to expect otherwise from MS's new offering
Except for the obvious. IE sucked due to its rendering engine. Edge sucked due to its rendering engine.
MS's new offering is just a skin for Chrome.
Even MS can't fuck this up.
It's actually pretty good... for now... (Score:1)
It reminds me of the early days of Chrome - back when it was blazing fast, faster than an
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You do understand the new Edge is just a rebranded Chromium. I can't imagine any reason why I'd use it over Chrome, or if I disliked Google sufficiently, Chromium.
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also, in the OP, I should have said NOT as my primary browser.
I'm actually kind of pissed about this to be frank (Score:3)
I have done a rather large amount of embedded v8 programming in my recent career, and I have learned to loathe it. When Chakracore came out, I looked into it as a potential alternative, and the degree of control that it offered a JavaScript embedder was very appealing. In particular, Chakracore did not make what in my opinion is the ludicrous assumption that v8 seems to have regarding its use in the real world, which seems to be in the case of v8 that the only possible practical use for it would be as a dedicated JavaScript interpreter, and if something catastrophically bad should happen while it is interpreting said code (such as the JavaScript code using too much memory, for instance), where v8 would unceremoniously kill the entire process via a SIGABRT, Chakracore would return cleanly back to the caller with a suitable error code that indicated the JavaScript environment was corrupt and unusable. The caller could then dispose of that JavaScript environment with no impact on the rest of the application and create a new one, if needed. When you are needing the JavaScript environment to be running in the same process so that any native callbacks you might have in it can easily share all of its data with your main application, obviously aborting the entire process is not acceptable.
Since Edge is now based on Chromium, it will be using V8, which suggests to me that Chakracore is going to soon become an orphan project, with few to no new features added in the future, and maintenance soon dwindling to zero.
So it means that I'm stuck with v8... which for reasons I've described above, sucks in my opinion.
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>"So it means that I'm stuck with v8... which for reasons I've described above, sucks in my opinion."
Only if you continue to ignore Firefox. And the more it is ignored, the more v8 *will* be your only "choice", meaning no choice at all. Not saying it would be easy, but putting all your eggs into a single, Google-controlled basket is bad for so many, many reasons...
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Privacy Issues: This Browser vs Google Chrome? (Score:3)
How does this browser compare to Google Chrome with respect to privacy issues? Google Chrome is well known to be horrible as it collects massive amounts of data on users.
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Oh it's totally different now. Instead of giving it to Google, now it goes to Microsoft AND Google. Totally not even comparable. /s
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Google Chrome is well known to collect massive amounts of data on users.
FTFY. Whether data collection that Google does is "horrible" or not is something that gets decided by users. And do you think that most of the internet voluntarily inflicts "horrible" things on themselves when alternatives are available?
But to answer your question, users of this software are running Windows 10, and likely currently using Chrome, and give less fucks about data collection that I do writing this post telling you no one cares.
That's not me trolling, that is plain evidence. The overwhelming majo
CTRL-SHIFT-P!!! (Score:2)
My primary annoyance with it is that ctrl-shift-P brings up the print dialog instead of Private browsing mode. The shortcut for the latter is Ctrl-Shift-N.
My secondary annoyance is that Adblock Plus seems less effective in it vs. Firefox. I assume that will be corrected.
But why? (Score:2)
The question that everyone keeps asking: "So I already have Chrome, Firefox and Safari on my Macs... and Chrome, Firefox, Edge and Internet Explorer on my Windows instances. Why do I need yet another browser, exactly? Moreover, why do I need a browser which uses basically the same under-pinnings as both Chrome and Safari? Why, Microsoft?"
The answer? You don't need it... but Microsoft wants you to think that you do, because they want to be the ones tracking all of your online activities, instead of their com