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Hundreds of Armed US Counter-Protesters Fall for 'Apparent Hoax' (seattletimes.com) 390

Yesterday as America celebrated its Independence Day, the Washington Post reports something unusual happened at the historic Civil War battefield at Gettysburg: For weeks, a mysterious figure on social media talked up plans for antifa protesters to converge on this historical site on Independence Day to burn American flags, an event that seemed at times to border on the farcical... There would be antifa face paint, the person wrote, and organizers would "be giving away free small flags to children to safely throw into the fire."

As word spread, self-proclaimed militias, bikers, skinheads and far-right groups from outside the state issued a call to action, pledging in online videos and posts to come to Gettysburg to protect the Civil War monuments and the nation's flag from desecration. Some said they would bring firearms and use force if necessary. On Saturday afternoon, in the hours before the flag burning was to start, they flooded in by the hundreds — heavily armed and unaware, it seemed, that the mysterious Internet poster was not who the person claimed to be. [Alternate URLs here and here.]

Biographical details — some from the person's Facebook page and others provided to The Washington Post in a series of messages — did not match official records. An image the person once posted on a profile page was a picture of a man taken by a German photographer for a stock photo service... The episode at Gettysburg is a stark illustration of how shadowy figures on social media have stoked fears about the protests against racial injustice and excessive police force... Armed vigilantes lined the streets of small Idaho towns last month after false claims circulated online about antifa... Similar hoaxes have befallen towns in New Jersey, South Dakota and Michigan in recent weeks.

It is not always clear who has made these false claims and why, whether they seek to advance a political agenda, antagonize people with whom they disagree or achieve some other goal. Social media companies have in recent weeks shut down a handful of fake accounts created by white supremacist groups posing as antifa operatives in a bid to undermine peaceful protests.

The Post reached Twitter and Facebook, who shut down the accounts last week, "saying the person behind them had manipulated the platform by creating multiple accounts with overlapping content in an effort to amplify their messaging." But by then the counter-protests had already attracted hundreds of supporters.

"An official at Facebook said the person appeared to be operating the accounts from inside the United States."
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Hundreds of Armed US Counter-Protesters Fall for 'Apparent Hoax'

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  • by dmay34 ( 6770232 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:07PM (#60265004)
    In other news: Donald Trump convinced these guys to vote for him. Turns out, they are very gullible.
    • by znrt ( 2424692 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:51PM (#60265120)

      ... and someone just trolled them hard. not sure it's a good idea to kick that wasp nest, but can't deny it's fun.

      • by MachineShedFred ( 621896 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:42PM (#60265280) Journal

        If it was any other Department of Justice, I would think this was an FBI intelligence gathering operation - stir up some shit and get a bunch of persons of interest to show up somewhere that you've blanketed with surveillance.

        This Department of Justice doesn't appear to give a shit about ultra-nationalist hatemongers though.

        • You will note... (Score:2, Interesting)

          by sycodon ( 149926 )

          ...no one was arrested. No one was assaulted. Nothing was burned, looting, vandalized.

          BLM should take a lesson from this.

          Also, a bunch of armed black men showed up at a famous Confederate memorial. No one was arrested. No one was assaulted. Nothing was burned, looting, vandalized.

          Seem that people who are lawfully armed don't have issues with the law.

          • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @09:34PM (#60265664)

            At least in America, we still have the freedom to burn our flags.

            The situation is much worse in Europe: Brexiteer Fails to Burn Flag because of EU Rules on Flammable Material [metro.co.uk].

          • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @11:16PM (#60265918)

            ...no one was arrested. No one was assaulted. Nothing was burned, looting, vandalized.

            So an armed, vigilante mob turns up to what was billed as a legal protest (after all flag burning has been deemed protected speech by the supreme court), but there was no one there actually burning flags.

            Now imagine the confrontation that could have occurred if there was an actual flag burning. Especially given the harassment that *did* occur of Trent Somes, who was coincidently at that location, simply wearing a BLM t-shirt.

            This was a powder keg ready to go off, and all that it needed was a single match to set it off. And it would have been a legally lit match that did it.

            • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

              What's the legal situation for the person who conned them into going there if say someone get injured or killed?

              They indirectly caused those people to go there but the link is much less direct than shouting fire in a theatre.

              Seems similar to cases where people try to prevent others from voting by feeding them misinformation. Has anyone been prosecuted for that, and if so what was the alleged crime?

          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by znrt ( 2424692 )

            ...no one was arrested. No one was assaulted. Nothing was burned, looting, vandalized.

            BLM should take a lesson from this.

            right. let's have cops violently arrest and even kill a few thousands of them over a year for absolutely no other reason than they being white fascist males, let's have courts then systematically dismiss the 10% of cases that would be prosecuted at all as mere routine police work and then let's try the experiment again and see what happens? i mean, so that you comparison starts to make the most tenuous sense at least.

            you know, blm isn't about some dumbfuck trolling about burning dumbfuck symbols. black peo

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Monday July 06, 2020 @04:45AM (#60266402) Homepage Journal

            The difference was not the people being armed, it was that the police didn't turn up in force with military vehicles, water cannons, sonic weapons, tear gas and a strong desire to try them out on the protesters.

            BLM have learnt that lesson thousands of times. The problem is police violence.

            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by Anonymous Coward

              That explains why CHAZ/CHOP was so peaceful, and didn't have five murders, including an unarmed black kid.

              There is a problem with police exacerbating the situation in some instances, but it's ridiculous to say it's always the case. There were nights in Atlanta, Milwaukee, and NYC where the cops completely disappeared, yet the riots went on. Of course you don't know that, since you watched only the most slanted news which edits out the part you don't want to see ("look at this policeman being mean! of cou

    • by fermion ( 181285 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @08:05PM (#60265354) Homepage Journal
      They are not just gullible, but unpatriotic.

      This flag desecration happens year round, especially at the is time. For those who do not know, either because they are not American or not raised in a patriotic fashion, flag burning is not disrespectful in the US. This is not something I made up, look at the Title 36 rules that are federal regulations.

      Letting a flag touch the ground, printing it on a t-shirt, throwing it in the trash, all these are desecration. Every year millions of flags are desecrated by Americans who hate their country. They buy them from some traitor soldier for a dollar, then put them on the ground and throw them in the trash like used chewing gum.

      Every year some terrorist places them on staff in the dirt, them lets them fall to the ground and get flushed into the gutter.

      The US Flag should not be weaponized to spread hate. If we want to respect the flag, those procedures are well documented and written by congress and other agencies. It is not ambiguous. If you buy a flag, do not desecrate it, and if it becomes damage, burn it.

      Do not sit there and let it just fly until it is in shambles. Do not think because you leave it up all night, unlighted, that you are more patriotic than someone who chooses not to desecrate the flag. You are not, you are less patriotic. You should burn your flag, if you love your country, ask forgiveness, and never buy another one agains.

      • Now is burning an American flag bikini considered unpatriotic?

        Though I am curious why the US is almost the only country which gets hung up on flag burning?

        • by cusco ( 717999 )

          I think we should remove them when encountered (although the wearers my object a bit.)

      • Maybe under the UCMJ flag desecration is a crime, but out here in the wide world of civilian life, it's free expression. You can burn it, discard it, or wear it. It might not win you any friends in certain situations, but it's not illegal.

        I don't much get why you'd do it unless your goal was to make people who love it very angry with you, though.

      • by dryeo ( 100693 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @08:40PM (#60265492)

        Perhaps the problem is worshiping a piece of cloth, seems even more stupid then worshiping a politician or reality TV star.

      • They buy them from some traitor soldier for a dollar...

        Why wouldn't they get one from a store like a normal person?

      • by rhook ( 943951 ) on Monday July 06, 2020 @01:42AM (#60266178)

        Printing the flag on a t-shirt is not desecration. Using the flag as clothing is. And perhaps you should actually read Title 36 of the Code of Federal Regulations. If you actually read them you would see that they have nothing to do with the flag. The US Flag Code is US Code Title 4, Chapter 1, Section 8.

        https://www.law.cornell.edu/us... [cornell.edu]

        No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
        (a)The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
        (b)The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
        (c)The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
        (d)The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
        (e)The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
        (f)The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
        (g)The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
        (h)The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
        (i)The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
        (j)No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
        (k)The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.

      • They are not just gullible, but unpatriotic.
        This flag desecration happens year round, especially at the is time. For those who do not know, either because they are not American or not raised in a patriotic fashion, flag burning is not disrespectful in the US. This is not something I made up, look at the Title 36 rules that are federal regulations.

        Deep and subtle thinking is not their strong suit.

    • This troll ended up helping raise millions for the GOP candidates. They are already sending emails and touting the baselessness of liberals as a reason to organize. Sure it felt good at the time, but it will have a little more sting if this derision drives Trump to another victory.
  • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:07PM (#60265008)

    Fits my image of Trump supporters.

    • If you actually believe that more than half the country is "stupid violent thugs", you might see a much brighter reality if you step away from /r/LateStageCapitalism or whichever propaganda outlets you normally spend your days in. Perhaps say hi to your neighbors. Get to know actual humans in your area. Then see for yourself if most of them are stupid violent thugs, or if maybe certain people have been bullshitting you.

      • At this point, I'm fairly sure that pretty much everyone thinks that half the country is stupid violent thugs.

        The only thing that people can't agree on is which half it is. Usually, it's the half they don't belong to.

        • by raymorris ( 2726007 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @09:09PM (#60265590) Journal

          You may be right. I hope not "pretty much everyone".

          People see things from different perspectives based on their own experience, and unfortunately which media outlet they have chosen as their primary source of news.

          I think a lot of times we argue with one person daying the elephant is big and the other person saying it's hairy. I hope MOST people can recognize that it just might be big and hairy. The June version of that was:

          Some cops do really bad things!
          Not all cops are bad!

          Some cops do really bad things!
          Not all cops are bad!

          Some cops do really bad things!
          Not all cops are bad!

          Yeah some cops aren't very nice people. Some cops do bad things. Duh. I hope most people can recognize that's obviously true. Also, MOST cops never have, in their entire career, fired their weapon outside of a training range.

          It's interesting sometimes to compare the headlines on CNN.com and on Foxnews.com. Then to see the trend on each. Like a formulaic TV series, they each have a pretty consistent pattern. Each day they run a certain number pf stories covering each of the themes in their formula. Sometimes they have to reach pretty far to come up with SOMETHING relevant to the theme they can treat as news.

          If I read mostly CNN and had a sprinkling of other liberal voices feeding my worldview, I'd probably be a raging liberal. That would be the reasonable response based on the evidence presented to me. If I read mostly Fox News, with a sprinkling of other conservative commentators, I'd probably be a raging conservative. That again would be rational based on the news stories I'd see. I hope most people can recognize that. The guy with a different viewpoint than you is literally viewing the world from a different perspective.

          On most issues that are contentious, where there are people concerned about two sides, AmiMoJo and I see opposite sides of the coin. That doesn't make AmiMoJo stupid. What would make AmiMoJo stupid would be if they couldn't recognize that there ARE two sides of the coin, that I'm seeing something they aren't seeing and vice-versa.

  • Cult consequences (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ngc5194 ( 847747 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:10PM (#60265030)

    This is what happens when you create a cult filled with people so gullible that they believe their own external propaganda.

  • Silly (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Darinbob ( 1142669 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:15PM (#60265042)

    People going out to defend a piece a flag, while also wearing the flag of the opposing side, completely unaware of how illogical that is. The confederates were rebels and traitors, and that flag didn't even gain popularity until long after the war anyway.

    Plus, it's just a flag. It's not like anyone is being hurt if it's burned, a piece of cloth. They're all for free speech, except now they're not because they're treating the flag like it was some precious holy relic. You know the bozos are only there to start a fight and the trolling succeeded.

    The fact that we put up statues to their losing generals, including many terrible generals, is an insult to this country. There is no history being erased because history was being erased when those statues were put up the first time, as a deliberate propaganda effort by the Daughters of the Confederacy in an attempt to make the losing side look good, to make the issue of the war seem noble when it was 100% about slavery and maintaining the lifestyle enabled by slavery. They Daughters of the Confederacy managed to get schoolbook guidelines created across the south to promote the view of the Confederacy as a noble institution. And this propaganda worked! Because now you have many southerners who honestly believe the bullshit, they think it's fine for a statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest to be put in a high place of honor, a man of low character, and the man in charge when surrendering union troops were massacred. Probably the worst of the worst when it comes to confederate villains. There is no "heritage" being preserved here.

    We can remember the history by writing about it, not by putting up civic statues of scoundrels. Put up some statues of Harriet Tubman, or statues to the southerners who sided with the Union.

    Sorry. Had to rant because of all the idiocy going on.

    • Re:Silly (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ShooterNeo ( 555040 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:46PM (#60265106)

      Agree with 99% of your post except for one bit:
                "including many terrible generals"
      I was under the impression that overall the South's one advantage was they had better generals. Everything else was not in their favor, they were basically screwed. (One thinks about idiots in Florida and similar doing stupid 'hold my beer' stuff and it seems like the Civil War was almost the same kind of stunt). They were outmanned, outgunned, outfunded by such an immense margin that victory was never possible without some incredible tactics and strategy.

      So the reason the civil war dragged on for years and racked up an immense body count was supposedly due to bad union generals.

      • True, but what I meant was that many of those confederate statues, not all, were not not good military leaders.

        • Re:Silly (Score:5, Interesting)

          by sfcat ( 872532 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @08:26PM (#60265426)

          True, but what I meant was that many of those confederate statues, not all, were not not good military leaders.

          Let's see here. They had 1/10 the number of soldiers, worse weapons, no real navy, and yet they came within about 10 ft (or a misinterpreted command, or about 20 other things that could have happened differently at Gettysburg) of winning the war. Remember, if Lee had won there, there wasn't a real army between the army of the Potomac and Washington (and NYC). We are talking about a large war so making blanket statements isn't going to be accurate. However, the Union never had a general who was Lee's match. Even the better Union commanders later in the war weren't. They just had such huge advantages in just about every way that all they had to do is not be surrounded. You don't have to like history, but you don't get to just make it up as you go.

          What you can say is that several of the best southern commanders were not given statues because the locals didn't like their politics after the war. And there are several statues of very forgettable confederate commanders. However, the protesters also tore down a statue of U.S. Grant. So I'm not sure history is their strong suit.

          • by sfcat ( 872532 )
            Army of Northern Virginia not Army of the Potomac. Sorry, its been a while since I studied civil war history.
      • Re: Silly (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Nidi62 ( 1525137 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:14PM (#60265168)

        As the war went on, the US generals got better as the Old Army/politically connected officers washed out (Hooker, Burnside, etc) and were replaced by more effective officers(Meade, Grant, Sherman), while in the South as the war went on their best generals tended to die (Jackson, Armistead) or relegated due to infighting and army politics (Longstreet, probably one of Lee's best corps commanders after Jackson) and replaced with officers who had good reputations as division commanders but couldn't handle a corps (Ewell and AP Hill).

        Ironically, the best generals on both sides almost all tended to have been junior officers in the Mexican War and many either served together there or at West Point and, if not friends, new each other.

        • Let's not forget ol' Braxton Bragg, the main Confederate general in the west--and the main reason why the Confederates lost so badly in the west. finally getting decisively beaten by Grant at Chattanooga, losing the entire Mississippi, and splitting the Confederacy in two. After that a Confederate defeat was just a matter of time.

      • One could a competent officer in military matters and still be terrible. Southern officers were traitors to the stars and stripe, and, ipso facto, terrible.
        • Re:Silly (Score:5, Interesting)

          by Anon42Answer ( 6662006 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:47PM (#60265296)
          The same way US Revolutionaries were traitors to England. Remember, there was a legal argument that states joining the Union could also choose to Exit the Union. And Remember that President Lincoln essentially pardoned all of Confederacy so they were no longer traitors to the USA -- a smart thing to try to reunify everyone.
    • Re:Silly (Score:4, Informative)

      by will_die ( 586523 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:44PM (#60265288) Homepage
      Agree with you for those statues put up in the 50s, that was the DNC putting up statues to their heroes and can removed.
      However before that time there were statues put up as memorial and paid for by members of both sides and groups are pushing for them to be removed. At the end of the war it was decided by the Union that they would attempt to reunite the country so Union solider paid a portion of confederate memorials and union memorials were supported and and money provided for them by former confederates.

      As for your statues of southerners who sides with the Union, good luck with that Texas has some of those and they are being discussed to be removed, or like statues for abolishonists and Union leaders have been destroied by the various protesting groups.
      However if you want to put up statues for Lenin or Stalin those look to have excaped destruction .
    • It's kind-of sad you can't see what that flag means to the people who fought and died so you could submit that post.

      And there are flag laws which prohibit such disrespect. These laws are not enforced, but it's considered good manners to follow them.

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/us... [cornell.edu]

  • by ZombieCatInABox ( 5665338 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:25PM (#60265074)

    That's the fundamental problem with social media. It puts too much power in the hands of too few people, or even just one.

    Human's genetic social behavior simply never evolved to handle situations like this. In tribal days, the most one single person could do is to convince his tribe, a few dozen people at most, to raid the neighboring tribe. As communications progressed and tribes turned into kingdoms, one single person could trigger wars of a few thousand victims at most. Then kingdoms turned into nations, and now one single person couldn't do it alone. He/she needed help, partners, strategic alliances, etc.

    But now, with the advent of the Internet, a single person has gained the power to reach the entire world's population in a matter of minutes. But humans still behave and react like the tribal days, and it's not unreasonable to assume that one single particularly crafty and evil person could trigger a world war, or some other kind of world wide bloodbath.

    • by BitterOak ( 537666 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @06:38PM (#60265090)

      That's the fundamental problem with social media. It puts too much power in the hands of too few people, or even just one.

      Arguably, it does the exact opposite. In the pre-social media days when traditional media dominated the culture, a lot of power was concentrated in the hands of very few people. Now, virtually anyone can participate, for good or for ill.

      • by sound+vision ( 884283 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:24PM (#60265206) Journal

        That was the selling point was a few decades ago, that the Internet would "democratize" the exchange of information. That was before social media inserted automated, algorithmic gatekeeping (like filter bubble) into the equation. 20 years ago, the most useful thing on Yahoo was their human-curated, categorized directory. Web rings were compiled by hand. You generally had to pass some small hurdle of intelligence to establish a web presence on Geocities. Yes, it was open to all - but it took some small effort to fire up Netscape Composer and and save the .html file and upload it to your account. Now, people's phones are designed to actively solicit their input at all hours, they ping you while you're taking a shit if it feels like you haven't looked at it enough recently.
         
        It's extra insidious because it makes you feel like you've got a well-positioned window on the world. "Mechanized media" describes it just as well as "social media". And instead of "democratizing information", it's more like "inbreeding information".

        • by sjames ( 1099 )

          It kinda reminds me or the Babelfish being responsible for more and bloodier wars than anything else in the galaxy.

    • it's not unreasonable to assume that one single particularly crafty and evil person could trigger a world war, or some other kind of world wide bloodbath.

      You would be right... if everyone was an extremist. Extremism actually causes neurological changes which someone was able to trigger in an extremist group. It's more likely that extremists will be manipulated and lured into a situation where some of them become violent. This was actually something that Russia attempted to do before the 2016 election.

      Not everyone can have their emotions manipulated so easily.

    • by Dunbal ( 464142 ) *
      The power is between your ears. It's no one's fault if you choose not to use it.
  • They should organize another Antifa flag-burning party in the middle of Death Valley at the peak of summer, and then a Christmas flag-burning (and generic holiday gift exchange) deep in the Alaskan wilderness :D

    • They should organize another Antifa flag-burning party in the middle of Death Valley at the peak of summer, and then a Christmas flag-burning (and generic holiday gift exchange) deep in the Alaskan wilderness :D

      What about the live animal market in Wuhan China? Or ... down town Teheran?

  • the battlefield of Gettysburg? How many showed up? 10, 20, 100?

  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:05PM (#60265148)

    A church pastor visiting Gettysburg, wearing a BLM t-shirt and minding his own business, gets harassed by gun-wielding "patriots" and is escorted out of the park by federal LEOs for "his own safety". From TFA:

    As the 3 p.m. start time for the planned flag burning approached, there was no sign of Alan Jeffs or of busloads of antifa members.

    Suddenly, by the statue of Lee, a biker shouted that he had gotten an alarming call. Someone was preparing to burn a flag, after all, he said. Scores of people jumped on their bikes and roared toward the cemetery.

    There, they learned it was not the threat they imagined.

    A man had entered the cemetery wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt. The man, Trent Somes, later told The Post he was visiting the grave of an ancestor, not protesting. A seminarian and associate pastor at First United Methodist Church in Hanover, Pa., Somes said a crowd of about 50 people surrounded him and aggressively questioned him about his shirt.

    “I didn’t do anything to them,” he said.

    Police arrived and encouraged Somes to leave.

    “For his own safety, federal law enforcement made the decision to remove him, and he was escorted out of the cemetery,” Jason Martz, acting public affairs officer for Gettysburg National Military Park, later said.

    (sigh)

  • by Vegan Cyclist ( 1650427 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @07:19PM (#60265184) Homepage

    It's pretty simple, and is seen across political spectrums. There are people who are inherently violent, and want to commit violence, but they also abide by some of the moral/legal boundaries...and even exploit these as ways to justify their violent actions.

    Be it on the left, we see people who claim to be in the Animal Liberation Front, Earth Liberation Front (both who have 'blown shit up'), to more recently examples of a very small number of people claiming to be in BLM, and then these gonzos on the far right that we see.

    They all have one thing in common: they really, really like the idea of being violent. And will cling to a cause that might allow them to perpetrate it. Even at the expense of all logic and reason.

    On some levels I appreciate whoever triggered this, fabricating up a 'left wing action', and putting on display what nutjobs turn up. Reminds me of that pizza shop basement thing. That also made ZERO sense and was quite easy to invalidate, yet look at what happened.. (But if a little effort were put into researching many of these 'issues', there'd really be very little to get upset about. I bet these same dopes opposed to burning flags believe they're proponents of free speech. Doh.)

  • they get to have a party.
  • but after seeing the pictures [digitaloceanspaces.com] it's pretty clear these guys are LARPing. So yeah, It checks out. News for nerd.
  • Are people actually deciding whether a Facebook account is valid or not based on the profile photo? Some people have their cat or dog as their account photo. I'd been known to use the Doom guy as my FB account photo. I guess that makes/made us all "shadowy" figures.

  • There are an increasing number of these idiots that spend huge amounts of money on weapons/costumes and collectively fantasizing about killing Americans. When Obama was president they fantasized about killing government employees... with Trump in office they fantasize about killing "Antifa' or BLM or whatever they work themselves up about.

  • "Free speech! ...no, what are you doing? Not *that* speech! Try to do that and I'll shoot you!"

    Well, they're nothing if not predictable, at least.

  • by SvnLyrBrto ( 62138 ) on Sunday July 05, 2020 @11:43PM (#60266000)

    Operation Fortitude [wikipedia.org]

    For deceptions, the Allies had developed a number of methodologies, which were referred to as "special means". They included combinations of physical deception, fake wireless activity, leaks through diplomatic channels and double agents. Fortitude used all of those techniques to various extents. For example, Fortitude North relied heavily on wireless transmission (the Allies thought that Scotland was too far for German reconnaissance to reach), and Fortitude South used the Allies' network of double agents.

    1. Physical deception: to mislead the enemy with nonexistent units by fake infrastructure and equipment, such as dummy landing craft, dummy airfields and decoy lighting.
    2. Controlled leaks: information would pass through diplomatic channels, which might be passed on via neutral countries to the Germans.
    3. Wireless traffic: wireless traffic was created to simulate actual units to mislead the enemy.
    4. Using German agents controlled by the Allies through the Double Cross System to send false information to the German intelligence services.
    5. Public presence of notable staff associated with phantom groups such as FUSAG, most notably the well-known US General George Patton.

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